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Kathleen Terry's avatar

Tom. I notice your previous social media posts on many platforms are very anti-Prime Minister Carney. So I see this post is very much in line with your desperate anti-Liberal position.

Remind me again which paper publishes your opinion pieces? It wouldn’t be one of those bought-and-paid-for by US media rags, would it?

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Tom Parkin's avatar

I’m not a fan of Carney because I don’t like conservatives. I didn’t know that is a crime worthy of trashy insinuations.

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Sidney's avatar

When Conservative Donors own the media

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Berble's avatar

I will say this over and over until April 28th. If you want to preserve your health, safety, financial security, your very freedom you must ignore these polls. You keep working like the Liberals are 10 points behind. Because like the states said what seems a lifetime ago, your very freedom depends on it.

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Phil T's avatar

Also you state that they just “move on to the next” with no accountability but Philippe J Fournier has his entire seat by seat accuracy record on his website

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Phil T's avatar

No one was told how to vote. These sites provide information for free which you can do anything you want with and you are not entitled to absolute precision for free. In fact, all of the seat projections on 338Canada were within MOE (including the NDP) and these people do incredible work with the limited nature of polls. Terrible take.

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Rob Welch's avatar

Strategic voting sites like SmartVoting.ca use these projections as their main inputs, and they literally tell people how to vote

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Phil T's avatar

And here’s a fun fact: you don’t need to vote according to what a website tells you to do!

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Rob Welch's avatar

Here's another one. When seat projections perform badly, and strategic voting sites give bad advice, we should criticize them.

Under-estimating the NDP seat count by 50% is a bad prediction. They did a bad job. Their errors should be publicized and people should lower their confidence in the projections accordingly - unless the modellers can show they've specifically addressed the cause of those errors. (They haven't)

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Phil T's avatar

The errors ARE posted. You can go to 338Canada right now and see the full track record. Philippe J Fournier has time and time again said these are just projections but people (with a poor understanding of statistics) take them as gospel. I think that strategic voting sites are dubious at best because we don’t have riding based polls and voting should be based on your values and not strategy. Unfortunately, we haven’t got electoral reform or ranked choice voting so these will exist as long as we have FPTP voting. There are disclosures on 338canada that these are projections, and that they may miss sometimes (and statistically they will miss some times).

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Tom Parkin's avatar

I think we need to distinguish between to ween polls and seat projects. The first seem generally reliable (within MOE, blah blah) but the latter can be incredibly wonky.

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